tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1696809745881536549.post240516458271206608..comments2012-01-17T12:19:12.183-08:00Comments on Doyle's Blog: Contrastive ApologeticsDoyle Sraderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04886902071551289717noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1696809745881536549.post-83581637125952277242012-01-17T12:19:12.183-08:002012-01-17T12:19:12.183-08:00One other thing you might have a look at:
Frank,...One other thing you might have a look at: <br /><br />Frank, David A. "The New Rhetoric, Judaism, and Post-Enlightenment Thought: the Cultural Origins of Perelmanian Philosophy" Quarterly Journal of Speech 83 (1997): 332-350.<br /><br />His discussion of the ovens of Akhnai is especially good, and pertinent to that same double-truth idea. And he offers up rabbinic argument as an alternative to the postmodern turn, because it doesn't get so hung up on the principle of the excluded middle.Doyle Sraderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15950686553702402082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1696809745881536549.post-78379574047102980412012-01-17T10:28:52.300-08:002012-01-17T10:28:52.300-08:00I'll definitely be getting that book. I've...I'll definitely be getting that book. I've been trying to study the parables and Hebrew logic myself and appreciate the pointer. <br /><br />My favorite single concept has been from the book "Our Father Abraham" where it discusses the double-truth, which requires a proper understanding of a human's position. It's OK that God being just and merciful at the same time are true and contradictory and still true because there are limitations in who we are to understand these things. <br /><br />So God is my rock, and my comforter, and my shield, at the same time. But a Hebrew wouldn't try to prove it in syllogism on paper because it doesn't compute that way.Isaiah McPeakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01900612970325264763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1696809745881536549.post-69223802799324362652012-01-17T07:28:46.015-08:002012-01-17T07:28:46.015-08:00Thanks, Isaiah! I've read several of Brad Youn...Thanks, Isaiah! I've read several of Brad Young's books, and enjoyed them all. I also recommend <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Through-Middle-Eastern-Eyes/dp/0830825681/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326814073&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">Jesus Through Middle Eastern Eyes</a>, by Kenneth Bailey. I've actually been teaching my college Sunday School class out of it, and Jabbour quotes it approvingly in his book. But I've been on the kick of interfaith arguments between Christians and Jews for a few years now -- <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Answering-Jewish-Objections-Jesus-Historical/dp/080106063X" rel="nofollow">Michael Brown's books are just like candy to any Christian who's debated</a> -- but what's fascinating about Jabbour is that the argument structure itsef is different. Rabbinic argument is a little different from mainstream western argument, and my colleague at the University of Oregon, David Frank, is one of the world's leading experts on that. But Jabbour's pointing me in some fascinating directions as far as how to frame arguments for people with entirely different world pictures. I'm late discovering this book; what's interesting to me is whether anyone in the contrastive wing of rhetoric and argument has gone down the road of apologetics.Doyle Sraderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04886902071551289717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1696809745881536549.post-12537119698989946752012-01-16T19:01:50.664-08:002012-01-16T19:01:50.664-08:00Both Ray VanderLaan and a great little book called...Both Ray VanderLaan and a great little book called "The Parables" show a Jewish and Eastern look at apologetics and Christianity at all. Jesus was a Jew and many people forget that.<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Parables-Jewish-Tradition-Christian-Interpretation/dp/1598563033/ref=sr_1_17?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326769231&sr=1-17Isaiah McPeakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01900612970325264763noreply@blogger.com